CHINA STAMPS CLUB: December 2013

Tuesday, December 17, 2013

China stamps forgery ?

Hello Gandhi Collectors,

In my previous blog I compare Mao and Gandhi forgery stamps.

In this I will compare Mao instructions stamps or Directives of Mao's Tse-Tung stamps used with rubber stamp of China.!!

Following screenshot is from eBay where 5 used china stamps of Directives of Mao's instructions set, looks like used on cover was sold for $2325.!!

As you know I am not expert but express my opinion by thinking what are possibilities in philatelic collection.!!!

In my previous blogpost I wrote about this Directives of Mao Tse-Tsung stamps were sold for $13.!! and here same stamps is selling for $2325!! except it is used stamps.!!

What are chances of this is forgery. i.e. A forged rubber stamp is applied on Mao's stamps? I am just guessing.!! It's possible.!!

We had seen this kind of forged rubber stamps on Gandhi stamp collection, so it can be done on Mao's stamp too.!!

Also look at the interest in this stamps. There are 45 bids.!!

Do you think all all bids are genuine.!! i.e. no shill bidding happened in this.? Think what are chances and if you don't know read my 10-20 blog post and you will know what is happening to stamp collection hobby.!!

Following is screenshot where 2 set of stamps were sold for $13. Ofcourse it was sold as FORGERY or REPLICA.

Do you think chances of applying rubber stamp on $13 stamps is possible?

Can You can make 2 used stamps set from $13 ?

Following are Forged RUBBER stamp or BOGUS (never exist) applied as cancellation or special cancellation on some of the India stamps related to 1911 First Aerial mail, Governor General of India, 1948 Gandhi First Day Cover.!!

So don't you think it's even more easy to make(or bribe or request someone) just plain circular post office rubber stamp and apply to any stamps.!!

There are more forged rubber stamp used on Gandhi stamps not only from India but also from different countries such as Germany, Great Britain, Nicaragua, Maldives etc.

Also don't forget the BLUM case from Germany where a dealer or forger has more than 500 rubber stamp who was caught by Germany police.!!

It's very easy to make circular rubber stamp.!! Nicaragua 100 years of cinema FDC cancellation is Forged.!! You will find similar in all 1998 Gandhi FDC from Africa and South America countries.!!

Now after comparing above Gandhi stamps forgery with rubber stamps as used stamps, what do you think about used Directives of Mao's instructions stamps?

Is it Genuine or Forgery.?!

Looks like it selling for 2000-2500$.!!

eBay is getting lot of commission from this kind of sale.!!! Also PayPal is getting commission from this kind of sale.

Disclosure : So in January 2013 I bought some eBay stock and become partly owner of the company with very minor stake in it.!!

So I can also make some money not in stamps but seller using eBay (partly mine) infrastructure such as servers, application, network, security.!! and paying commission to eBay and PayPal.

After comparing between Gandhi and Mao stamps now I think it's really a very big "Philatelic GAME.!!"

Thanks
China Stamps Club.

Stamps from China

Hello Gandhi Collectors,

While looking for Gandhi philatelic material I found lot of similarities between Mao stamps from China.!!

Looks like same principle is applied in Mao stamps also.

Following is FORGERY of Mao stamps which is sold as copy, replica, forgery.!! It's nothing wrong to sell forgery so everyone get chances to have that philatelic material at very nominal price.

This same like Gandhi Service 10 Rupees stamps from India.!!

But I was surprised when I saw this stamps Mao stamps selling for $11000.!!! Looks like it's a similar set.!!

Why make a offer also or pay $11000 as you can get for $13.!!

There are 2 offers for this stamps.!! (Don't we see this kind of activity in Gandhi specimen stamps.!!!)

So it's not only Gandhi stamps collection is glorified but looks like China stamp collection is also glorified !!!

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2012/06
/india-stamps-1948-gandhi-overprint.html

So what do you think when you compare Gandhi stamps and Mao Stamps.!!?

Thanks
China Stamps Club.

China stamps HOT ?

Hello Gandhi Collectors,

To me it looks like China stamps are hotter than Gandhi stamps even though 90+ countries issued stamps of Mahatma Gandhi.!!!

Why I am thinking China stamps are hotter, because recently stamps of China worth of $65000+ just stamps (mint or used) were sold on eBay in just 20-30 transactions.!!

There is no first day cover or used covers in this transactions.!! Think what will be the price if there are China stamps used on covers or First day cover from China.!!

Just China Stamps (Mao Stamps) worth of $65000+ !!! This is amazing.!!

It's lot of money when you just compare selling of Mint or Used stamps.!! Also it's just only from China and also it nothing but stamp related to Mao !! whether it's stamp of Directives of Mao or Mao poem stamps or Mao stamps.!!

So I think let's forget about collecting Gandhi stamps and start collecting Mao stamps from China. I think it will be good investment for your future !! (Just kidding!!).

To me stamps are not even for new collectors so forget stamps as an Investment.!!

Following are some REPLICA stamps from China which are also known as FORGERY, but seller is selling as replica and it's is sold at very nominal price so collector can fill the space in their album.

But now looking to following screenshot this Mao stamps (Genuine) are available in plenty so why replica stamps.?

Either it is not very limited like Gandhi Service stamp or Inverted Jenny or they are selling forged stamps as Genuine stamps. I am just assuming or what are possibilities.

But look at value it is selling for $3500 - $2800 - $2200 - $1600 -$900.... So some body is paying it, and it's good for eBay and PayPal as they are getting high comission from this sale so they are making money.!!

Invest in eBay stock.!!

(Disclosure : I own eBay stock, which I don't intend to sell in 72 hours after posting this blog post.)

Don't you see similar stamps above which are selling for 500 - 100 time less than following.

Do you think following are Genuine stamps? Because sellers has not described as replica or copy or facsimile.

If seller don't mentioned we can assume it's GENUINE.?

Let me make sure I am not expert so this is my personal view or opinion which I am expressing it.

I am no way to able to judge or predict that following are FORGED stamps because seller is not mentioning it.

Now think what will be total transaction on eBay in 2012 just from Mao stamps or China stamps.!! If $65,000 in just 2 months than my assumption is around half million to million dollars.

Do you think it really happened and eBay got commission on all sale, if we don't consider any cheating happened in this sale such as SHILL bidding, withdraw of transaction, non paying buyer or seller has to pay back if stamp got lost and all other unseen circumstances happen in selling.!!!

But your guess is my guess.

So don't you think China stamps are hotter than Gandhi stamps.?

Thanks
China Stamps Club.

China stamps folder

Hello Gandhi stamps collectors,

Just comparing Gandhi stamps folder with China Mao stamps folder.!!, so we can learn some thing useful for our collection.!!

We all know that India and China are booming countries in world were lot of millionares are borned every day, and to get money from them as alternate investment is also booming business.!!

Alternate investment in stamp collection.!! which are sometimes nothing but BOGUS or Forged stamps or philatelic material, as new born millionares don't have any idea about stamps or very minimum knowledge about stamp collection.!!

We all know what kind of forgery or BOGUS philatelic folder are selling on eBay with Gandhi stamps, but recently I saw China Mao stamp folder and I was very surprised, when compared with Gandhi stamp folders. Lot of similarities between Gandhi stamp folder and Mao stamp folder.

This folder was sold from Taiwan for $1008 (lot of money is spend by seller for piece of paper.!!) by eBay seller "tw12tw".

Not sure whether this is Genuine or BOGUS like other Gandhi stamps folder.!! You need to make sure before you buy any kind of philatelic material whether it's Gandhi or Mao or any other thematic collection because it's very tempting to make this kind of folder and sell it high price instead of selling just mint stamps.!!!

There are also chance of getting replica or facsimile stamps.!!

So BEWARE before you buy.

Whether it be "COURVOISIER 1948 STAMPS FOLDER" or " Brazil Gandhi stamps folder" or "Million Rupee Gandhi specimen folder".

Click following link to understand "Mastering of stamp folder" and try to get some idea and you can apply it to your collection.

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2012/07/courvoisier-stamps-folder.html

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2013/01/emblem-of-india-on-1948-gandhi-special.html

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2013/03/rare-stamps.html

All the above Gandhi folder are BOGUS, glorified by increasing price by not paying to seller or shill bidding etc.

Now compare this trend with MAO stamp folder and think what are chances.?

Do you think it was genuine eBay transaction were buyer really paid to seller ($1008) and all eBay and Paypal commission were paid.?

Reason for this suspiscous is buyer has very bad feedback for not paying to seller!!! So not sure whether this was glorification of China stamp by buying it and not paying it at very high price to make false impression on other collectors.?

There are lot of things needs to look before buying any kind of stamps whether is Gandhi stamps or China stamps or just a stamp.!!

Following are my blog post were I compare China Mao stamps with trends in Gandhi philately such as pricing, overprint stamps, facsimile etc.

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2013/06/mao-stamps-directives-of-mao-stamps.html

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2013/01/looks-like-china-stamps-are-hotter-than.html

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2013/01/directives-of-maos-china-stamp.html

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2013/01/overprint-stamps-of-china.html

You know how bad is stamp collection hobby right now as no new collectors wants to collect stamps and experienced collectors wants to dump their collection.!!!

So what do you think about China MAO stamp folder.?

Is it genuine or Bogus?

Thanks
China stamps club.

China stamp collection value

But now looking to following screenshot this Mao stamps (Genuine) are available in plenty so why replica stamps.?

Either it is not very limited like Gandhi Service stamp or Inverted Jenny or they are selling forged stamps as Genuine stamps. I am just assuming or what are possibilities.

CHINA STAMP VALUE

Recently I was searching for Gandhi stamps (not for collection) but to see what kind of FORGERY is available so I can keep up with my knowledge and gain some more experience in forgery Gandhi stamps and also how dealers make their living by selling stamp material.

It's simple to make living on stamps by doing following

1) Increase price by SHILL Bidding
2) Start selling at high price and give option of make a offer.
3) Make forged material by making different rubber stamps of different cities and make it unique item, so it can get more money !!
4) Now display this in your stamp collection exhibit and also encourage friends to display it even though it's forged.!!
5) Glorified some special thematic stamps by all of the above methods and start selling and hope for someone to buy!!

Following is a unique philatelic material for sale by eBay seller id "princessez" in China stamp collection if it is genuine.!! A 1902 Turkey Zongouldak redirected mail to China Vietnam.!!

But look at the address and do you think it will ever reach to final destination.!!!

Just get any old postcard and start stamping your forged rubber stamps.!!! and start dreaming for someone to buy this.!!

Now if you see it has nine rubber stamp from different cities applied in 1902!! Look at the quality of rubber stamp i.e. type of ink used, detail information about date applied and also complete detail of other things.!!

Don't you think this was custom made specially for collector.!!?, because postal administration has lot of things to do other than applying cancellation with proper care (such as space to emboss rubber stamp, making sure clear date is shown etc.!!)

Read following screen shot how this postcard was traveled including date, city etc. and after that you decide whether this is worth $3000 or $3.!!

So what do you think about this China stamps collection value.

Does it make sense this in China Stamps.?

Does China stamp collection value is this much.!! Or it's falsely glorified to cheat new rich people in China to invest in stamps.!!!

Now what do you think after reading all the details about postcard travel through postal stream of various countries in 1902 through sea and again with seller in Turkey after considering

1) type of material used in 1902 such as paper, ink etc.
2) weather during travel as well as with various collector storage,

Following are FORGED rubber stamps we call it as postmark of Germany and you decide what are the chance of this kind of rubber stamps on your thematic collection.

Even EXPERTIZING certificates, hand stamps and forged signatures of experts in philatelic society were also forged, so it was very hard for regular collectors like me and you to find out authenticity about the material.

Click following link to read more about BLUM case and OPEN YOUR EYES.!! There are 650 forged rubber stamps from Germany and think about chances of forged from INDIA or China or any other countries.!!

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2011/06/fake-ffc-flown-in-airbus-a380-with.html

http://www.filatelia.fi/forgeries/blum.html

Now look at the following rubber stamps from Calcutta and Bombay from India and think what are chances of forgery like BLUM case.

Above rubber stamps are taken from same eBay seller who is also selling China stamps philatelic material. This Gandhi First day cancellation as well as Gandhi First Day cover is for sale at $3000 or Make a offer.!!

My offer is $5!! (combine postage charge only).!! In order to win a medal with this kind of material I need to be famous stamp collector as well as active in philatelic exhibition around the world so no one can question authenticity of this.!!!

Also I need to give copy of this to some philatelic book writer so it will be published.!!! And then I will start selling with help of friend or son/daughter living abroad (just to mail this cover).!!

So don't you think this London Street, Calcutta and Colaba, Bombay can be forged easily.!!!

I think so.!!

Also it does not make sense to have just regular rubber stamp when there was "Jai Hind" first day cancellation special cancellation issued for this stamp.!!

BTW : There are plenty of "Jai Hind" FoRgErY or BoGuS special cancellation are available from different cities also.!!!

It's a BIG SCAM or SCANDAL.!!! (Click following link to read it)

Is Gandhi stamps all about Forgery ? Biggest SCAM in stamp collection ?

Now also look at some of the famous Gandhi philatelic material ofcourse it should be FORGED or BOGUS to make it famous.!!!

Read my blog post about following BOGUS FORGED Gandhi stamps and philatelic cancellation with rubber stamp applied on piece of paper or envelope and trying to MAKE huge money instead of selling just MINT stamps.!!

Germany FAKE Cancellation : http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2010/01/fake-gandhi-postmark-cancel-from.html

Mauritius FAKE zipcode : http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2011/11/early-usage-of-indian-pincode-classic.html

Early Usage cover : http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2012/01/gandhi-1948-stamp-early-usage-of-1948.html

Gandhi SERVICE FAKE : http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2012/04/gandhi-service-stamp-how-one-can-tell.html

So after reading all this do you think it make sense to collect USED postcards or cover?

Don't you think philatelic judges and philatelic association needs to look thoroughly to verify authenticity of this kind of material because it's very hard for them to look information about 100+ years ago and chances of that information might be incorrect or wrong such as we see it in Gandhi Handbook.!! (http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2013/08/gandhi-handbook.html)

Thanks
China Stamps Club.

China overprint stamps ?

Hello Gandhi stamp collectors,

I am just comparing Gandhi overprint stamps with Overprint stamps of China.

We all know that Gandhi OVERPRINT stamps are nothing but philatelic fantasy or cinderella stamps just specially overprint to make money (lot more money) and fool collectors.

But now I am also seeing lot of overprint stamps of China.!! Not only that but it has also overprinted with India money Annas, which were also used on Gandhi stamps.!!

There are other also overprint stamp which are also Forgery (but selling as Replica FAKE).

Looks like Forgery is every where in philatelic.!!

I read that India and China stamp market is booming. Collectors are making tons of money on their investment.

I read some China stamp collectors made 4 times money in just 4-5 years.!!!

To me it looks like it's a false propaganda to glorify Chinese stamps.!! I had seen this in Gandhi stamps and I am seeing lot of similarities in China stamps.

We have seen lot of FORGERY in Gandhi overprint stamps and other British India overprint stamps with SERVICE, Specimen or ERRORS. Following are some of them.

1) Gandhi inverted SERVICE stamp and King George inverted Service stamps.!!

2) Gandhi Cameroun stamps and Martin Luther king stamps overprinted for Apollo Moon Landing.

3) India Gandhi SERVICE stamps

4) Gandhi Specimen stamps from Cyprus, Guyana, Germany

5) Queen Victoria stamps overprint with Indian State Zanzibar with ERROR.!!

6) King George overprint stamp with Patiala state with ERROR.!!

7) Nicaragua Einstein and Gandhi Overprint stamp with overprint of Olympic stamps.!!

Following is example of Cameroun 1968 Gandhi Overprint stamp with 1969 Apollo Moon Landing.!! Biggest overprint stamp Cheating.!!!

Don't you think this is IMPOSSIBLE.!! How some country can overprint on previous year stamp.!!!

All following Overprint stamps of China is Forged. Think what are chances of getting this stamps instead of Genuine stamp which barely exist.!!

I don't know what following Overprint stamps of China are or what even overprint means because it's all Chinese language. except Annas.!!

So beware what are you collecting. As per me all China stamps are RE-PRINTED to provide the need of collectors and some to glorify it by increasing price so new collectors or investor will think China stamps are appreciating and let's invest in it.

But China stamp collection is worthless as GENUINE stamps are very rarely available because of communist country and think why people need stamps in China as everyone was living same villages for centuries.!!

But it's all glorification by selling for 2000-3000$ for $11000 price for just 5 stamps where as it is available for $15.!!!

1) Mao stamps (set of 5 stamp) selling for $11000.!!
2) PRC china Mao poem stamps (set of 14) sold for $3550!!

If you read above 2 blog post you will understand that it's nothing by glorification of stamps form China, Mao stamps from China. Same stamps are selling for $10-$15.!!!

So BEWARE what you are collecting and why are you collecting.!!

Read my following blog post to understand about stamp collection in DECLINE.!!

1) A Hobby in Decline : 1948 Gandhi USED cover case study.!!
2) A Hobby in Decline.!! - Part-2
3) How to invest when philately price is dropping.

If you see stamps are not even selling or selling like 5-10 times lower their value than mentioned in catalog.!!

There is nothing RARE or Scare in philately because this hobby is in downward trend because experienced collectors are loosing interest because value is not appreciating and new collectors are not coming in to this because there are lot of other things to do for them such as playing video games on Nintendo or X-box , social networking on facebook or google+ or surfig on web through internet or SMS through iphone or android or watch games such as cricket, football or basketball.!!

Only way philately can sustain is to stop cheating in this hobby. Yes CHEATING.!! which is what you will see in order to increase value artificially by inflating the price by SHILL bidding, not paying to seller or mutual understanding cancelling transaction and lot more.

To know more about this kind of activity read my following blog post and think what are the possibilities in cheating, glorification, SHILL bidding, FAKE, Forgery etc.

1) 1948 Stamps False hope of Riches?
2) 1948 Gandhi Stamps: Are False hope of Riches - Part II ?
3) 1948 Gandhi Mourning Private FDC : Are False hope of Riches - Part III?
4) 1948 Expensive Gandhi FDC : Are False hope of Riches - Part IV?
5) 1948 Gandhi Stamps Early Usage cover : Gandhi Stamps Are False hope of Riches - Part V?
6) Maxi Card sold for $5100 with 1948 Gandhi Stamps - False hope of Riches - Part VI?
7) Indian Philately Exposed
8) Indian Philately Exposed - Part II
9) Gandhi SERVICE overprint stamp price fell from $1009 to $1.!!
10) How can you tell that Gandhi SERVICE stamp is FAKE or Forgery ?

I hope all the above will help while making decision in investing stamps and to avoid getting CHEATED.!!

Now don't you think it does NOT make sense STAMP INVESTING!!

Thanks

Gandhi Stamps Club.